The following post is part of a thread chronicling the development of a married beta-sub named Pete who was raised hierarchically by his Alpha father and grandfather, and is submissive to this three sons. CLICK HERE to read all of these posts in chronological order!

The story of beta-sub/faggot Pete and his relationships with his God Alpha father and his three Alpha sons continues to get crazier and more complex with every update. There are so many intricate co-minglings (literally) within the family’s emotional architecture that I occasionally stop and ponder over how it got this way.

My answer typically comes down to this: Master Doug, Pete’s God Alpha father, enforced a joyful celebration of masculine hierarchy all of their lives, and this is the end result of it. Pete’s family loves Manhood and the power that imbues in them. It’s just a great thing that Pete’s three sons have all turned out to be Alpha and can benefit from the teachings of Master Doug while also practicing on their faggot father!

Pete wrote a bit more about the family after my last post and my commentary possibly rattled him. I didn’t mean to sound critical or concerned about the situation. It’s simply not something I’ve seen a lot of in my time with this site (God Alpha Dino’s family notwithstanding).

Here’s Pete’s update:

A few thoughts and updates.

Danny, the youngest just turned 14. The other two have birthdays in August.

Danny is still a little horn dog, but he is learning control, leadership, responsibility. The summer has been full of baseball and football camps.

All three are team leaders.

One of Danny’s coaches told me what a fine man Danny is. A real leader (let again a great player.)

The older two were always going to do great. Danny was looking to be a wild boy and a difficult teen – but he’s learned to know his place, how to channel his energy, how to treat others. He does it as an alpha male. The same coach said that it was so great allowing Danny to grow into his dominance. Coach is a friend of my dad’s.

Sex around the house is not all that often really. The two oldest boys are driving, middle boy only has his permit and will get his license in a couple of weeks. They spend time with their friends and various girlfriends. Good guys.

Danny spends more time naked than anyone. His friends come over and strip down, too. Playing in the pool, gaming. Their folks, especially their fathers are fine with it. Boys, guys, men will be naked.

Danny jacks off more than anything else sexual. 

I’m still Dad, and if anything the boys are more affectionate. It is an affection that a guy has with a friend lower on the pecking order. There hands are always on my shoulders, often with their hands on my head, often fingering my hair. I’m Dad that drives them around, doles out cash. But my oldest will tell me to wash his car, and I do. Often they will tell me strip down and stay naked, e.g. when I’m home from work, errands, shopping, gym. Dick and ass get pats. Hair gets ruffled. Very affectionate and very much comfortably exerting their dominance and the pecking order.

I don’t mind. I enjoy it. A lot.

Fag. Faggot. I guess I am, though I am not sure what it means in my circumstances. I’m definitely male and generally a guy. Easy going, but that does lead into submissiveness with other men, such as at the gym, etc.

My dad was telling me how he didn’t get the whole chastity thing, or guys being covered with jocks when being fucked. He said that a part of being a strong man is dominating and controlling and fucking other men – and he wants to see that it is a man that he is topping and bettering. He also said how he likes looking at the men he’s fucking having their dicks go soft and get smaller. He doesn’t allow his fuckboys to touch their dicks. He likes to see handsfree orgasms and ejaculations.

Also, my fuckbuddies, my friends, all comment how when fucking with other guys that they have no problem with e.d. or getting wiped out until they cum a few times. None have much sex with their wives. We all like the sweaty, physical, athletic man with man sex. We’ve also started making-out when we’re together. We didn’t use to, at all. Men kiss and make-out completely differently than we do with women. Rougher, more fun. (Never done it with my boys!  Ugh. Gross.) My dad wants to make-out when he is building up to pounding.

I love the details about how Pete’s sons treat him! It’s affection, certainly, but tinged with unmistakable dominance. The boys are lion cubs learning to kill, and using their father as the prey.

I’m really curious about Master Doug’s strong dislike of chastity or jockstraps for his faggots. I guess some Alphas love to see the difference between a Man (him) and a failed male. Humiliation is one of an Alpha’s favorite weapons, and I’m sure Master Doug wields it well!

Also, the idea of making out with my Dad turns my stomach!

Pete’s final paragraph is a ringing endorsement of Man-on-Man sex. It’s an interesting point. Men love to be with other Men, and they’re often invigorated by the experience of bonding. Sex between Men is definitely rougher and more adrenaline-fueled. I know I’ve only ever felt more alive after being fucked.

In all, I think Pete cleared up some of my misconceptions and helped me appreciate that the boys are growing up more naturally than I initially believed. It’ll be interesting to see if all or any of them claim faggots of their own as they grow!

They probably won’t find one as good as their Dad!

The following post is part of a thread chronicling the development of a married beta-sub named Pete who was raised hierarchically by his Alpha father and grandfather, and is submissive to this three sons. CLICK HERE to read all of these posts in chronological order!

The recent series of posts from a married beta-sub named Pete have caused quite a bit of commotion on X and the Hierarchy University Discord. People are rightly shocked by the details of underage Alphas being taught by their Alpha grandfather to use their father Pete as their shared faggot. It definitely takes the hierarchical paradigm to its most extreme conclusion.

I’ve been called an extremist by some in how I apply hierarchical principles (maybe that’s why I keep getting cancelled across platforms!), but I generally take a pragmatic viewpoint when it comes to some of the more extreme cases I’ve encountered overthe years. Hell, if I sat around prudishly rejecting distasteful stories, we wouldn’t learn as much as we’ve been able to about hierarchical mechanics! And this site has always put a higher premium on education than porn (even though there’s plenty of that here as well).

Pete has a few things to chare in this latest update, including the now-infamous cunting he received by his father in front of his sons. Let’s get into it:

Looking back, my dad had been manipulating everything, but in a good and beneficial way for my boys and for me. He saw what I was and decided to bring it out and strengthen it.

They boys were often naked, and not shy about jacking off. My youngest son used to tell me to do it, too. Show them. I didn’t. Until my dad was over and Danny, the youngest, told me to jack myself off. I wasn’t going to, never planned to. Then my dad told me to. To show them. I could have refused or left the TV room but I didn’t.  My dad drew attention to how my chest was getting flushed, and my nipples getting hard. My balls pulling up. I clearly remember and have thought often of my dad says, “look at his little dick. Most men, me, you boys have fistful cocks. But with a little teeny dicky like that he can only two fingers. But don’t make fun of it or look down on it. Men, real men, are always attracted to little willies. Men with little willies are generally hornier than most men and they generally cum over and over again, especially through their bottoms.”

When I came in my hand Dad pointed out how much there was and that it was potent. It made the three of them.

Dad told me to rub my cum on my dick and rub it like a clit, open palmed and flat fingers. He had me rub it until I came again, and he showed them how my cum was less and not as thick. He spit on my hand and told me to rub it again until I came. This time he had me lift one leg up on the ottoman and pulling my cheeks apart he showed them how my hole was opening and closing. He told them that this was how cunts got ready to be fucked. He fingered around my hole. When I came again, I showed them as told, and as told ate it all up.

For the next little while my youngest became obsessed with my hole. He kept telling me show him. He began to finger it. My dad showed him how to rub across my hole, through my taint and over my balls and dick and then back.

He would always tell my sons that I had a perfect mancunt, super fuckable. The oldest two were interested but not as intense as Danny and not as interested in playing around with my hole. They like to watch. They liked to jack me off and play around with my dick.

Finally Dad said that it was time to go all the way. That the boys needed to learn how to use other guys to fuck and to save girls for “making love”, “when you’re serious.” Fucking is good for men, but they needed be smart.

He told the boys to strip and to come to the master bedroom. He had me douche out and then lie back across the bed with my butt on the edge and my legs down.

Dad had the two oldest boys stand on either side of me and to lift my legs up and back and out. Dad showed the boys how to open up a mancunt with fingers, lub and spit. Rubbing around and as it begins to open to slip a finger in then more.

“Men you’re going to own, men that are going to be your fuck bitches, like your dad, need to have the man fucked out of him. You’ve got to fuck the man out.”

It was a hard, brutal, domineering, man-breaking fuck.

All three boys fucked him in turn, according to age, oldest first. I was fed my cum and theirs that dad had me push out.

My youngest son fucks me a lot. He’s started ejaculating and his boy cock is growing and thickening.

My dad has taken over the master bedroom and stays over a few nights a week. He’s taken over. My mom has told me several times how glad she is that he gets to participate in raising to boys. She also has said that she’s happy that I am keeping him satisfied. I don’t know what she knows, suspects, or what Dad may have told her.

Dad has three fuck modes. Sometimes somewhat gentler but always dominating. Sometimes pounding to work stress out. Sometimes me on my back, legs back and spread, with insisted eye contact when he fucks the man out.

My brother and I have always been close. He’s more like my dad. More dominant and much better hung than I am and much like my dad’s. We hang out together like we always have. We’ve always been good friends, but now we will casually fuck. He fucks me. We might be watching a game and he’ll say, “want to?” And he fucks me. I know his son messes around with my boys some.

Last year, before Thanksgiving I was in the gym sauna with three buddies, friends for years. Our kids are all around the same age. So, we are sitting there chatting and one of the guys blurts out, “I got fucked. A guy fucked me.” All being straight guys we caught our breath until one guy said, “bullshit.” We sat there, looking at our feet, and one of the guys said, “are you gay?” “No. No. Nothing like that. It sort of just happened.”

He told us how he was getting a massage by the masseuse that we’ve all used. He said it was just like always. He’d worked his way up and down his body back then front and then told him to flip onto his stomach. He began to rub from his shoulders down to his calves then back up but the eventually began to really work his glutes. My friend said that it felt great and admitted that he began to moan in pleasure. Eventually he began to work up and down to crack and then focus on the hole and my friend said that it felt great and even better when he slid a finger in.  He said it was amazing. Then the masseuse pulled him back, ass up and chest pushed to the table and my friend felt the man’s tongue joining his fingers. “Then he fucked me. It just slid in. It was amazing, maybe the best sex I’ve ever had.”  We were stunned. But then I said that I’d been fucked to. Pretty much the same scenario (I lied) and I really liked it. A couple of days later we rented a motel room. We have been fucking around ever since. I’m the only guy that only bottoms. With these guys I learned to love to suck cock and really like it. All of us still consider our selves as not “gay”, but we really enjoy sex.

I don’t consider myself as “gay” or even “homosexual” though that is becoming more of a reality as the idea of sex with a woman no longer has any attraction.

With my family it is a hierarchy sort of thing. I don’t do any other service other than sex and regular dad stuff. Dad did hire two guys to clean the house once a week instead of the cleaning service that we’d always used. If I’m home when they are there I am naked and they will fuck and have me suck and clean their uncut cocks.

The boys all do chores.

Pete

Oh, the effect Pete’s God Alpha father Master Doug has wrought over the years with his strict and incisive application of hierarchy! This is God Alpha Dino-levels of power and generational influence!

It’s shocking how effectively Master Doug’s teachings have rippled and radiated out to change the lives of so many Alphas and faggots! Never underestimate the power of Alpha influence and Alpha cock! I think it should be the goal of every upper-level Alpha to affect change in this manner! In some respects, this is part of the legacy every Man yearns to leave behind!

I’ll skip some of the more controversial aspects of Pete’s story, and instead focus on how Pete and his straight friends who fuck or get fucked don’t feel changed sexually. Even Pete, who admits that he’s no longer attracted to females after being cunted countless times by Alphas, claims to be straight! He’s resisting the label of “faggot” when embracing that purpose might help to free him from whatever is holding him back.

I think it would be good for his Alpha sons to know he’s embraced his faghood. This admission would bring hierarchy into sharper relief for his sons as they grow in power and start to own fags themselves.

But that’s just my opinion. Hopefully Pete will be able to bridge the gap between reality and denial and become whole, but even if he doesn’t, what he IS doing is brave. This entire thing was forced upon him by Master Doug. I’m sure that’s a heavy, confusing weight to bear!

The following post is part of a thread chronicling the development of a married beta-sub named Pete who was raised hierarchically by his Alpha father and grandfather, and is submissive to this three sons. CLICK HERE to read all of these posts in chronological order!

On July 11th I received a curious blurb in my Questions From Readers inbox from someone who claimed his father cunted him in front of his three sons, and that his father told the sons that a Man has to “Fuck the man out of a fag bitch, good and hard.”

When I asked for more information, the still unknown reader replied to my request with a much more detailed story about his upbringing and the philosophy behind it. At that point I put a warning on it, because it seemed too incredible to believe (even though it mirrored Master Dino’s handling of his sons, and I know that’s true).

However, Pete returned to give me even more information about his unusual family arrangement. Here’s what he had to say:

OK. I’ve been thinking about this all through the week. First, I’ll basically talk about how were raised.

Names (not real):

Doug – my Dad, and Mom

Pete – me, and wife

Pat – brother 2 years younger, his wife, his son and two daughters

Dave, my oldest son, now 17

Don, middle son, now 15

Danny, youngest son, now 13

Grandpa and Grandma – Dad’s folks

Great Grandpa and Great Grandma – Dad’s grandparents.

My brother and I grew up in a masculine home, under a masculine Top Dog Dad, Doug. He was not bossy, domineering nor bullying. He was a man who acted like a man and raised we boys to be men.

I have no memories of anything sexual, other than hearing my parents going at it at times, and when Dad told us to jack off in socks, cum rags or our hands. He encouraged us to eat it, tell us it was good for us. For the most part I have since.

My younger brother and Dad are both better hung than I am. My dad and my brother always told me that it didn’t matter. Individually both told me that they liked the look. My dad told me that he hoped one of his boys would take after Mom’s dad, in that little dicks looked good and little dicked guys always are like by dominant men that are leaders. My dick is little like my maternal grandpa’s and Mom’s brothers.

At our house men and boys always swim naked. Women and girls always wore suits. Dad has always said that men and boys need to be comfortable with and proud of their bodies. Female bodies are sexual, he and Mom would say, the male is just a body. My dad and his brother were raised the same. At their pool men and boys swam and suntanned naked, women and girls wore suits. Grandpa said that he didn’t own a suit until after college. In his day the Y, gyms, HS pool and College pool weren’t co-ed and men swam naked. Greatgrandpa says that he got his first suit in his mid-30s. 

Around my house male casual nudity was pretty common. That was how my dad was raised, the same with his dad. It was the idea of not-wearing-clothes and not something sexual.

Swimming parties at our house growing up was, and is, Men and boys swimming and playing and sunning naked, and females clothed. We swam naked and were comfortable naked in front of aunts, girl cousins, family friends, girlfriends (mine and brothers and cousins).

When at the mountain house clothes for boys were always optional. We swim, hike, play in the woods and pond and not uncommon for the males, to be naked. My brother and I and boy cousins could go days without putting anything on other sneakers.

My mom and grandmother were big supporters of this. They agreed with my Dad, Uncles, grandpa that it built men. Men and boys should be comfortable with their bodies. My girlfriends and the one that became my wife and mother of my boys accepted it. 

Through college, our guy friends enthusiastically joined in and were embarrassed in front of mom, other women, girls and girlfriends briefly if at all.

Most of the guys I know, and the Dad’s of my kids’ friends have no problem at all. The kids jump right in, the men might take a moment.

As my Dad always says, “men like being naked.”

Later, after Dad took over my family, my brother Brad told me that Dad had always fucked other men, many who were straight but that Dad’s dominance and sexual energy would get them to give themselves up. Brad told me that Dad started telling him about other boys and men would give in to him. He told him what to look for. Brad had been fucking buddies and teammates since middle school and through HS and College. Dad never told me about this.

Looking back I see that Dad encouraged my sons to jack off. First my oldest and for him to show his brothers. He told them never to be embarrassed or ashamed of it — but to spare their mother (my wife) to use tube socks and cum rags or hands to catch the cum so their mom didn’t have to clean up after them. Same thing Dad taught my brother and me.

Dad talked about what he was doing with Brad, encouraging him to raise his son to be a man, too.

Brad said that Dad recognized that my three boys were all leaders and competent smart boys and needed to be shaped to be men.

Dad recognized that my oldest son was a golden boy, a leader, top dog, and fairly sexual and that sex for him would often be about dominance and establishing pecking order.

Dad recognized that my middle boy needed shaping from being a smart normal boy to being a little more assertive and a leader. The oldest boy was one naturally. The middle boy needs more encouragement and direction.

Dad recognized that my youngest son, even at nine, was a sexual dominant, and had an innate desired and drive to control. Dad fed and directed him sexually from 9 on. My oldest boy is a leader and a guy that others want to follow. My youngest son has been channeled to be kind, generous, to understand the pecking order and how to guide others into their position, beneath him.

My brother said that Dad always recognized that I had natural potential in submitting to and supporting men higher up. In training my younger son, Dad decided that he would help me discover my place, too.

I asked my brother if he had always thought of me as gay. “No. Never. Are you?”

“No,” answered. I don’t really though certainly rewired to want to submit to men. I asked my brother if Dad thought of me as gay. “No. He sees you as what you are, a sexually submissive man for other men. A cunt. A receptacle.”

I don’t see myself as a gay. No one else seems to either. My friends and family are straight or at least heterosexually inclined. But in certain situations I am demoted from full man status. 

Danny, Dan, my youngest son is learning how to walk the narrow path balancing respecting my as his Dad, and in training and owning me. He asserts authority in just how he carries himself and speaks. Not mean, or bossy, but with steady dominance and leadership. He ignores my penis and balls other than occasional taps and pats and calling them cute.

His focus is on my cunt. Fingering and fucking. He has begun to produce cum.

Learning to rim was easy. Blowjobs took a while to get used to. My middle son likes me to slowly suck and lick him while he studies, reads, watches TV. My oldest son wants quick blowjobs or fucks.

There is some more background. What more would you like to know?

Pete

Pete’s situation is pretty insane, but since he’s grown up like this it seems normal to him. I’m pretty blown away by the depth of respect for hierarchy throughout the entire family. This kind of thing can only happen because of very powerful Alphas enforcing natural order in a ruthless manner.

I was thinking back to my childhood days, and how I was raised (which was a pretty standard suburban Midwestern upbringing) compared to this. I wonder how I would’ve reacted to the enforced nudity for males and such. I was almost nude for most of my childhood, but puberty made me so self-conscious about my changing body (and how much I didn’t like it and my unchanged, tiny penis) that I think I would’ve withdrawn completely. But who knows?

Pete seemed to accept the humiliation of having a tiny penis, but part of that credit goes to his father for the way he almost celebrated it as part of the separation of Men and fags. He treated it as something natural. He also treated as natural the purpose of faggots as servants and sexual devices for Men. I use the word “Men” to encompass all non-fags here, because Pete’s father treated Pete’s underaged sons like Men simply because they weren’t fags.

It’s such a tangled tree of hierarchical development that it’s impossible to determine how the rules applied. After all, Pete is still married to a woman, but he’s servicing all of the Men and Alphas in the family, including his own sons. How does that work? These are serious questions that deserve serious answers.

The idea that Pete’s youngest son (age 13) is fucking Pete is hard to imagine. And here’s the topper: the 13-year-old sounds like a God Alpha in the making!

Like God Alpha Dino’s remarkably hierarchical family, Pete’s family takes natural hierarchical law and applies it so thoroughly that there is no way to know anything different. I’m not complaining about this, of course, but I just know that doing it in our puritanical world today can be trouble.

And, of course, I want everyone to be safe and grow up well-adjusted.

Hopefully Pete will continue to share more details as time goes on!